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	<title>Comments on: Revised POASC Dues Increases from 2002 through 2010</title>
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	<description>Spanish Cove, our little piece of paradise in Lillian, AL</description>
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		<title>By: Gary W</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3478</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick, I do not like it either.  Last year I printed out some pages, and after several months of them laying around my office, I shredded them.  Not good for moral as many of my managers and other staff compare the salaries with their counterparts, and they all get paid differently because of years of service, promotional steps, and in some years the legislature approved small pay raises.  Ben, yes, all public records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick, I do not like it either.  Last year I printed out some pages, and after several months of them laying around my office, I shredded them.  Not good for moral as many of my managers and other staff compare the salaries with their counterparts, and they all get paid differently because of years of service, promotional steps, and in some years the legislature approved small pay raises.  Ben, yes, all public records.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3473</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are debating public records vs. private records!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are debating public records vs. private records!</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Junkins</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3472</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Junkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary: I defer to your experience, then. In my opinion, it ought not to be that way, though, and it shouldn&#039;t be that way in the Cove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary: I defer to your experience, then. In my opinion, it ought not to be that way, though, and it shouldn&#8217;t be that way in the Cove.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary W</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3471</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No stretching of the truth, know my facts.  As a long term state employee (still employed and going on twentysix years), my full name and salary of 2007, along with thousands of others is listed, for all to see.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No stretching of the truth, know my facts.  As a long term state employee (still employed and going on twentysix years), my full name and salary of 2007, along with thousands of others is listed, for all to see&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Junkins</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3464</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Junkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, you might be stretching it a bit. Most public employers follow the model of the Federal government. They establish pay Schedules that will disclose a range of salaries based on experience and qualifications. Then they add side tables for additional duties or qualifications. One can get an idea of a maximum and minimum range of compensation, but you&#039;re not going to find out what Miss Arbuckle makes vs. Mr Jones. As for churches, they can do pretty much what they want.

Bottom line: Your salary; my salary; anybody&#039;s salary is a private matter and ought to remain that way. Certain people within organizations are authorized out of necessity to know and control those things. But we average Joe&#039;s don&#039;t have that authority. As I said earlier, salaries of specific, highly paid executives are sometimes disclosed, but that&#039;s an exception.

Bottom line #2: I think we ought to leave the individual salary issue alone. The Budget and the Balance Sheets tell us what we need to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, you might be stretching it a bit. Most public employers follow the model of the Federal government. They establish pay Schedules that will disclose a range of salaries based on experience and qualifications. Then they add side tables for additional duties or qualifications. One can get an idea of a maximum and minimum range of compensation, but you&#8217;re not going to find out what Miss Arbuckle makes vs. Mr Jones. As for churches, they can do pretty much what they want.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Your salary; my salary; anybody&#8217;s salary is a private matter and ought to remain that way. Certain people within organizations are authorized out of necessity to know and control those things. But we average Joe&#8217;s don&#8217;t have that authority. As I said earlier, salaries of specific, highly paid executives are sometimes disclosed, but that&#8217;s an exception.</p>
<p>Bottom line #2: I think we ought to leave the individual salary issue alone. The Budget and the Balance Sheets tell us what we need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary W</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3457</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess then ....that Federal Law does not apply to State Employees, teachers, law enforcement salaries.  All that is public information and is posted on the web.  On the various churches I have attended, salaries are also made availble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess then &#8230;.that Federal Law does not apply to State Employees, teachers, law enforcement salaries.  All that is public information and is posted on the web.  On the various churches I have attended, salaries are also made availble.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Morsette</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3448</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Morsette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, it probably has not changed a great deal. Just more transparency and a forum for people to express their opinions to a larger audience than a Kitchen table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, it probably has not changed a great deal. Just more transparency and a forum for people to express their opinions to a larger audience than a Kitchen table.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3447</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, 

I miss it as it was.  Thak you for the thoughtful comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, </p>
<p>I miss it as it was.  Thak you for the thoughtful comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Wade</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3445</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

Thank you for your information. 

Do you see any way to decrease the projected increase? You being involved so long in the association I would think that if anyone would know it would be you. 

Let&#039;s have coffee some day soon.

Regards,
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>Thank you for your information. </p>
<p>Do you see any way to decrease the projected increase? You being involved so long in the association I would think that if anyone would know it would be you. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have coffee some day soon.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://coveconnections.com/2008/12/16/dues-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-3444</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, I hate to disagree with you, but Spanish Cove is not a Corporation, POASC is. I guess there is legal differences but from a practical standpoint there is none.  Also, are you sure that POASC under federal law can not release payroll records?  I believe it could if it wanted to.  That being said, I am not necessarily in favor of that, but many would be surprised at how low our employees are paid.  Competitive, I am afraid not, probably more than a little on the low side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, I hate to disagree with you, but Spanish Cove is not a Corporation, POASC is. I guess there is legal differences but from a practical standpoint there is none.  Also, are you sure that POASC under federal law can not release payroll records?  I believe it could if it wanted to.  That being said, I am not necessarily in favor of that, but many would be surprised at how low our employees are paid.  Competitive, I am afraid not, probably more than a little on the low side.</p>
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